Although, to be fair, I still think I’m a pastor. As I’m sure you’ll soon discover, I don’t think churches were ever meant to become organizations and I don’t think a pastor is really a position; I think the church is a spiritual family and a pastor is a spiritual parent. Therefore, I still consider myself a pastor even though my season of working in an organized church is long over. And I absolutely feel blessed for having had that whole experience because it helps me speak with authority about the organized church.
Let’s talk about your upcoming Kickstarter project, a book entitled Unchurching: Escaping Churchianity and Pursuing Spiritual Community. Please tell us a bit about it.
The book is about two very different forms of church: the type of churches we read about in the Bible and the type of church model we employ today. The first churches were small Christian communities that functioned like extended spiritual families. Today’s churches are, legally speaking, corporations.
The first two parts of the book endeavor to paint a picture of the early church, based solely on what the Bible says, without filtering the text through the lens of today’s organized churches. I think readers will be blown away by how simple church community was originally intended to be. I expect it will instantly feel like home and stir up a longing to become part of such a community, even if they’ve never experienced church like this before.
The next part of the book contrasts this picture with today’s church model: the corporation. I’m surprised this topic hasn’t been explored in more detail before. I think it’s going to be quite a shock for believers who have never considered what it means to legally incorporate the Body of Christ into a corporation. The final part of the book ends with what I hope will be a truly inspiring vision of church “outside the box” so to speak.
I plan to launch the book on Kickstarter in late Spring or early Summer and plan to have free samples available for download before that. There are a few more details about it on my animated video and cartoon blog, Church Anarchist. Simply go here to learn more. And also check out some of my animations while you’re there!
In a single sentence, what do you most hope readers will take away from the book?
I hope it emboldens believers who want to pursue genuine church community and convinces them not to settle for church-as-usual.
Do you have a target audience in mind?
I hope all believers will be encouraged by this book, including those who are quite happy with the organized church and wish to remain in it. But I especially have a heart for anyone who has been mislabeled as a rebel or troublemaker simply because they have legitimate questions about the disconnect between the churches we read about in the Bible and the churches we attend on Sunday mornings.
I’m not saying there aren’t actual rebels and troublemakers who might gravitate towards this book and try to misuse it as a prooftext for their own bad attitudes. But I’m not concerned with them. My heart is for devout followers who have a growing conviction that something just isn’t right about the way we do church today. I want them to realize they’re not crazy and they’re not alone.
A few fun questions…
Describe yourself in one word.
Troublemaker. (Yeah, I know I just talked about people who have been mislabeled as troublemakers. But I’m not one of them. In my case, the shoe actually fits.)
If you knew you couldn’t fail, what dream would you pursue?
I would pursue becoming a full-time author, artist, and speaker. I feel like I have more ideas than there are sands left in the hourglass and I don’t want to take a bunch of woulda-coulda-shouldas with me to the grave. I want to get as much out as possible: onto the page, onto the screen, in front of live audiences, whatever.
Stories and parables are an integral part of both the Old and New Testaments. Is there a Bible story, parable, or passage that has been particularly important to you and/or describes your personal journey of faith?
In my late teens and very early twenties, I actually lived the story of the prodigal son. I ran from God pretty hard and tested the limits of His love, only to find out firsthand that His love is limitless.
In the story that is your life, are you the tall, dark stranger; the romantic lead; the mythical warrior; the mad scientist; or the child in an adult’s body?
As much as I’d like to say the mythical warrior, my wife has always told me she thinks of me as a mad scientist. Hopefully, it’s simply because I’m always working on some crazy project and coming up with some new idea. But it’s probably best not to question it.
I’m a dog lover. Please tell us about your pets, if any, or your favorite pet as a child.
We have a tiny little Pomeranian, almost Toy Pomeranian sized, named Ripley. Yep, I named her after Sigourney Weaver’s character in the Alien movies. And we have a cat named… wait for it… Puma Thurman. There’s your readers’ payoff for reading this interview!
Thank you, Richard! It’s great to have you as a guest at DivineDetour.
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For more information about Richard, visit his website or video blog and follow him on Twitter. Click here to learn more about his Kickstarter project, Unchurching.